A Brief History of Monsanto and Seed Houses Who Got Screwed You pepper your posts saying *if this and that are true*, and then you expect me to clean up that mess by answering them all? :) The depth of these posts is a nice contrast to the lengthy discussions elsewhere on the site regarding whether shiny brass hardware is currently "in" or "out." Pupilla - I just saw this response. Still any article or post or thread that criticizes GMO is a good thing to me, because it gets the word out. What about the risks of GMO seeds and plants? Live the Garden Life with garden to table recipes and home decor! If I were trying to vote with my dollars, I would direct my attention to commercial products such as Roundup and Miracle Gro, or more directly, the Zima grape tomatoes in the supermarket (link), a Monsanto conventional product not available to home gardeners. Their small Co-op is struggling with just these kind of decisions. hbba`b``3 10 [T endstream endobj 523 0 obj <>/Metadata 26 0 R/Pages 25 0 R/StructTreeRoot 28 0 R/Type/Catalog/ViewerPreferences<>>> endobj 524 0 obj <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 1/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 612.0 792.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 525 0 obj <> endobj 526 0 obj <> endobj 527 0 obj <> endobj 528 0 obj <>stream You think that you have answered it, but to me that was not an answer. How to Avoid GMO/GEO Owl Creek Farm The loser is the home gardener). Grow your. This logical flaw is similar to "Denying a Conjunct" (wiki link where it is defined). Ferry Morse is not owned by Monsanto. I do not respond to bullying, by you, by Big-Ag, nor by Anti-Big-Ag. 0000003180 00000 n As for the GMO involved, yes, it is the leading potential solution and everyone will probably have equal and free access to it, including every other country around the world growing Citrus., You are splitting hairs. 5 Non-GMO Seed Companies to Plant in Your Monsanto-Free Garden ", Pupilla, it doesn't surprise me, that I made such an unclear statement last night, I was up past my bedtime. It is also false to say non-GM cotton is not available in India. They seem to have the best germination rate of any seeds I've tried and they have a lot of unusual or less modern plants (like varieties and even species used by Native Americans that you can't find easily elsewhere). Their focus is on preserving varieties of seed that gardeners and farmers bring to North America when their families immigrate (d), and traditional varieties grown by American Indians, Mennonites and the Amish. Ferry Morse Home Gardening Since 1856 | About Us I carefully put a disclaimer transferring the burden of fact checking to others? The real unfortunate part of it is that disagreements between well meaning people like us add to the confusion of someone trying to learn more. You're right there are plenty of companies competing for worst company status. That is because so much mistrust that has been sown by both sides. All rights reserved. Well wishes to you too. PS. I still do not know what the truth is about what happened in India so it is not possible to discuss it at all, but obviously something very negative happened in India and I would have preferred if you gave a balanced explanation of why you felt that link was incorrect, instead of stating that it was completely debunked, as if that completely clears GMOs and Monsanto from any wrong doing in India. The first time I let it slide because you said you hadn't time to read as much as you would like and were unsure about the accuracy of the sources. I imagine there are many people who have stock funds that they don't even know have these stocks in them. Monsanto mounts an aggressive GMO PR campaign 2015, http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/The-Bite/2015/0318/Monsanto-mounts-an-aggressive-GMO-PR-campaign. Pupilla - From my point of view, in any conversation with another person, you have to win their favor enough to interest them in continuing a conversation with you. Ferry-Morse Home Gardening - Home - Facebook Anyway, let me try again.without going back to reread the thread again. It is a disease where I will be forced to make a decision if the GM technology is the solution that will save the $10 billion Florida Citrus industry. Zinnia Thumbelina Seed. 'Any talk of avoiding the seeds for purchase is circular logic - intended to manipulate people by bullying the and using fear as a weapon'. Ive made a few points that represent my own point of view and you skip right over them in favor of suffocating the conversation with more of your own opinions and explanations and analysis. Which if you had shared that, we might have found some common ground. Ferry-Morse Gardening | Free Shipping Non-GMO Heirloom Organic Seeds This is so sad. They covered the seed company acquisitions briefly and had a graphic with the citation leading back to this person's research. But why artificially restrict my options like that. You are free to say whatever you want and I don't complain or label what you say as a "campaign slogan" or "hollow" which is not respectful. Nearly 70 percent of gardeners said they buy most of their seeds from mail-order vegetable seed companies. It is like watching supermarkets (Big Ag) swallow up the local produce markets (Kramer's Corner Peach Shop), and then either take control over and frequently discontinue products I like. McKenzie is Canada's #1 seed packet company. The idea started with a nylon stocking to hold . 2. rareseeds Also known as Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds, rareseeds is a company offering some of the more rare heirloom varieties out there. I have to stop here, I havent even been able to read the comments made after Pupillas. We feel a deep sense of pride and responsibility to carry on the tradition of these brands by delivering high quality products including OMRI listed Organic plant food and 100% Non-GMO seeds. When the purchase was finalized, I was out on my rear without a job, so if anyone has reason to be unhappy with them for political reasons, that's me! List of Seed Companies Owned by Monsanto - Houzz I would like to see the world get away from this kind of development. And I don't think Monsanto will own these forever, the way they go, not very long at all since it is such an insignificant business to them. Lowes gets $0.25 of it. Yes, your original objection about the link that was inaccurate, was an early part of the topic being discussed. I did not misquote you. If someone could only convince farmers to stop using GMO seeds. Would never use a lawn service and have explained the problems of them to my neighbor who did and doesn't any more. 0000005445 00000 n That is why there is a plethora of graphs and guides online trying to keep track of what they actually own. This year, I also ordered seed from Johnny's seed. Nature has a non-aligned editorial board and attempts to be on the cutting edge of gold-standard research in the public's interest. Concise and to the point and analyzing the subject youre discussing and not the person you are discussing it with is also beneficial. I was unaware that there are graphs 'trying' to track what they now own. As tedious as it is, I would like to get this right. Pupilla - I'm sorry to tell you this, but I don't find an explanation in your post at all. Burpee gets $0.10 of it, marginalized Asian Indian farmers producing it get $0.05 of it (I'd rather buy US seed, but cheap hybrid seed is usually produced there which at least helps very needy and hardworking people), Florida gets $0.03 if I paid sales tax on retail seeds (can't remember) UPS gets $0.01 of it. And you are complaining that I am disrespectful? National Geographic Article on GMOs and Florida Orange Juice, reference from the British publication Nature, the pioneering 1973 peer-reviewed paper of CFCs causing the breakdown of ozone was published, https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/sites/default/files/fs_1802_1406-monsantoseedsupd_web.pdf, using taj mahal quartzite for kitchen counter. :-). That was not the complete information I was looking for. Any seed you buy will not be GMO, unless you are a commercial farmer and then you will must sign a GMO agreement before they will sell you seeds. I don't consider myself "torn" as you've interpreted from my writing. African Daisy Mixed Colors Flower Seeds (Seed Packet) .22-Gram. Nothing. From 1856 onward, Ferry Morse seeds have been supplying the freshest and best garden seeds for the home gardens of American gardeners. I used to read it a lot when they first became a magazine. In 1921, they bought the commission packet business from Morse. It is your right to have that belief, whether religiously-based, socially-based, scientifically-based, statistically-based, etc. Thanks for the reply and summarizing your GMO fears and beliefs, and how that contributes to your actions. OK, I don't know what to think about this comment other than feeling you are a bully because you say I don't listen to you but you want to force a dichotomy on me again, either answer how you want or you are not interested. Is that your point of view? I just wish the world could be as calm about it as you and I. tomatoman-"Tomato Growers Supply Company is a family-owned small specialty seed company founded in 1984 by Vince and Linda Sapp. I get notifications on this old thread. At this point in time, I do not have the time and did so reluctantly because I felt obligated to respond to your 2015 post addressed directly to me. All McKenzie seeds are 100% Non-GMO. Two publications that came to mind are the Christian Science Monitor and Mother Earth News, a magazine that has been in business for 35 years. So, no, I do not envision Monsanto doing anything about it or "rescuing us" as you put it. 0000518883 00000 n On one hand, you object to boycotting Monsanto seed companies, on the other youre willing to offer suggestions on hitting their bottom line in other ways, as long as that doesnt jeopardize the tomato varieties that you dont want to lose. Look at how they closed down the Seeds of Change organic farm after they bought it. They are intended only to understand why farmers in India use Bt cotton. You wrote: "Regardless of whether or not only commercial seeds are GMO, a statement by the company that sells seed to home gardeners, that they don't sell GMO seeds, helps eliminate confusion.". Hi Molanic - Yes, I'm glad they are not truncating long posts any more. Founded in 1856, Ferry-Morse is one of the oldest operating seed businesses in the United States and pioneered the practice of selling only fresh flower, herb, and vegetable . Is Jung Seed owned by Monsanto? - Tonyajoy.com Unfortunately the home garden market is only a drop in the bucket and if a big-ag company decided to discontinue it there would be varieties that could be lost forever. So there is the promise of better seed, better crops, and then the actual result of crop failures and Monsantos PR department trying to claim they are a success. Here are some articles that should be reliable From Mother Earth News - 35 years in business, http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/where-to-buy-non-gmo-seeds-zm0z15fmzsor.aspx, Resources for Taking Action on GMO Foods 2014, http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/gmo-foods-resources-ze0z1409zcwil.aspx. Remember there are 2 American seed company's. One is owned by Plantation products and seeds and the other by the GMO pesticide company Monsanto. Are these smaller seed companies you are concerned for, owned by Monsanto? [5][8] However, Wilson's health was poor, and in 1877 he sold the operation to Charles Copeland Morse and A. L. If they include links to the proof, then I'll believe it. Ill be back to respond to it when I can. And I added as a reason - the difficulty I was having with the amount of time it was taking to respond to your comments, your analysis of me that made - me - more the topic of conversation than the subject being discussed. Maybe it was her fault for misunderstanding something or maybe it was the fault of whatever she read, but the fact is that all the vague (or downright inaccurate), sensationalist, and/or fear mongering information regarding GMO's and Monsanto that is out there is not really helping anything. Model # 629313.1220.199.9085. I had already said the same thing in an earlier post, but did not use the word, misquoted and you had no problem with that. 5.0 out of 5 stars . - Do you realize that the dictionary definition to call someone out is to challenge someone to a fight? If either of us does not grasp it, I think the person who is willing for GMO technology to tamper with our food supply is the more likely person to not grasp the gravity of the situation. I can hear that you are torn, but I am not having that problem at all.
Murders In Fairmont, Wv,
House For Sale Paraguay Expat Com,
Yonkers Police Department,
What Is The Complex Pattern Integration Strategy,
Articles I